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<title>White Glove Tracking</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.ni9e.com/">Evan</a> and I just put out a new project called <a href="http://whiteglovetracking.com/">White Glove Tracking</a>.  From the site:</p>

<p><i>There are 10,060 frames of video in Michael Jackson's 5 min 35 sec nationally televised landmark performance of Billy Jean.  The White Glove Tracking project (W.G.T.) is an effort to isolate just the white glove from this moment in pop-culture history. Rather then write unnecessarily complex code to find the glove in every frame of the video I am asking for the assistance of 10,060 individual internet users to simply click and drag a box around the glove in one frame.</i></p>

<p>Help us out!  It's a surprisingly addictive process.  Get started <a href="http://whiteglovetracking.com/index.rb">loggin' frames.</a>  </p>

<p>Big thanks to <a href="http://www.eyebeam.org">Eyebeam</a> and <a href="http://www.rhizome.org/">Rhizome</a> for the support!</p>]]></description>
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<title>Electric Use Map for Personal Kyoto</title>
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The map above shows the average monthly electric use of <a href="http://www.personal-kyoto.org">Personal Kyoto</a> users.  A frequently <a href="http://www.personal-kyoto.org/energy_usage/map">updated map</a> is also available at the Personal Kyoto site.  </p>

<p>Getting the average use data out of PK and getting the data into Google Maps was pretty simple.  What turned out to be challenging was working with the US Government's zip code boundary lat/lon data which is in a completely weird format.  It's just a lot less user friendly than it could (should?) be.  One could imagine that public data (which this zip code boundary information is) could be a lot more accessible.  This seems to be a trend I've observed with  most of the public data I've worked with now.</p>]]></description>
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<title>Personal Kyoto</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, I've finally to put <a href="http://www.personal-kyoto.org/">Personal Kyoto</a> out there for public use.  Personal Kyoto is a web application that I developed at <a href="http://www.eyebeam.org">Eyebeam</a> in the <a href="http://www.eyebeamresearch.org/">Openlab</a> as part of my Fellowship.  PK allows New Yorkers (and hopefully more people from other cities later) to monitor their home electric use by grabbing their account data from the local utility (ConEd in this case).  Additionally, Personal Kyoto analyzes each user's electric use and computes an electric use reduction goal that is based on historic electric consumption and US Kyoto Protocol targets.</p>

<p>The project is based on the idea that observing behavior is often the impetus for changing behavior.  For instance, there's lots of anecdotal evidence that cars with MPG computers encourage drivers to drive more efficiently because they learn the driving behaviors that lead to more gas consumption and those that lead to less.  Similarly, the first step for changing your financial behavior is to track your income and expenses (i.e. keep a budget).  This process almost always illuminates areas where your spending can be reigned in because you see things that were invisible to you before you started recording that information.  The point is that measurable, comparable feedback on behavior can change behavior.</p>

<p>The ideal solution for an electric consumption monitoring tool is probably to install a physical device that monitors your electric use real-time in your home or work place.  However, such a device would likely be expensive (or at least cost more than $0).  Personal Kyoto, however, is really the same thing &mdash; it just works with more course data supplied by your monthly electric bill and via the web instead of a physical device.  It does have the benefit of being completely free though.</p>

<p>I've already become pretty hardcore about sniffing out <a href="http://www.brunoandtheprofessor.com/2006/08/vampire_loads_a.php">vampire loads</a> (seceretly always-on devices such as TVs, stereos, charging devices, etc) and replacing the few remaining incandecent bulbs I have at home.  The results seem to be showing in <a href="http://www.personal-kyoto.org/energy_usage/share/1">my decreasing monthly average usage</a>.  If you're a New Yorker interested in reducing your energy use (and/or the money you spend on your electric bill) do check out <a href="http://www.personal-kyoto.org">Personal Kyoto</a> yourself and get that average use metric heading south.  If you're a software developer and are interested in working to bring PK to your city, send me an email (ben [dot] engebreth [at] gmail [dot] com).</p>

<p><b>Update/Note</b>:  I forgot to thank <a href="http://research.eyebeam.org/people/michael-frumin">Mike Frumin</a> for contributing his technical knowledge to the project as well as a few significant conceptual points.  Thanks Mike.</p>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://research.eyebeam.org/">The Eyebeam Openlab</a> has the <a href="http://research.eyebeam.org/fellows">Call for Fellows</a> out right now.  I've been an R&D Fellow for the last year and have had a wonderful experience.  Working with creative minded nerds is pretty cool.  If you feel the label <i>artist, engineer and hacker</i> fits you well, be sure you get your <a href="http://eyebeam.org/production/onlineapp/join_detail.php?program_id=726662">application</a> in before August <strike>14th</strike> 21st.  The fellowship is 11 months long and starts in November.</p>

<p>While a fellow can work on whatever projects he or she is interested in, the lab's (and Eyebeam's) themes as of late have been leaning towards (1) Energy, Technology and Sustainability and (2) Urban research, urban interventions and media in public space.</p>

<p>Speaking of Energy, Technology and Sustainability, look for my next project, <i>Personal Kyoto</i>, in the next couple of weeks.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:51:25 -0700</pubDate>
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<title>Ridin&apos; around in a car again</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Again, I've been quiet on the blog for far too long, but I having just returned from cross-country travels, it seemed like a good time to check in.  Last week I headed out to Arizona for my grandmother's wedding.  Yes, my grandma got married and it was totally cool -- so cool that the event was catered by KFC.  And man those people have good biscuits.  After a couple of days in gorgeous Sedona (where I fondly recalled my days of western living), I jumped in a car and headed out to LA to join the <a href="http://graffitiresearchlab.com/">GRL</a> crew who where just getting into town from a successful <a href="http://www.makezine.com/faire/">Maker Faire</a>.</p>

<p>Of course, LA has been a bitter-sweet kinda town for me in the past, but this trip was just fantastic and really, really made LA feel wonderful.  It's probably the distance (in both miles and minutes) from that city that allows me to feel that way, but I really loved being there and (almost) everything about it.  I can still deal without the traffic (and that's not an insignificant element of one's life in LA) but the city and the goings on within it were nothing but super-cool.  In large part it's just due to having good pals out in that part of the world and the ability to get to see them all in a short amount of time (not to mention hangin' with the super-cool GRLers).  It was like concentrated fun.</p>

<p>At the same time, LA made NYC seem new again when I got back.  The season's changing probably had a little to do with it as well, but it's just nice to see the city again after being away from it for the longest period of time since I moved here last year.  Nice to be back, but I still need to catch up on the lost sleep I missed while I was away.</p>]]></description>
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<title>SlashLinks is out Today!</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Today I released <a href="http://slashlinks.eyebeamresearch.org">SlashLinks</a> over at the <a href="http://research.eyebeam.org">Eyebeam R&D</a>.  SlashLinks is a tool you install on your web host's machines (similar to Movable Type) that mirrors your <a href="http://del.icio.us">del.icio.us</a> links via the del.icio.us API.  SlashLinks runs on <a href="http://www.rubyonrails.org/">Ruby on Rails</a>.</p>

<p>Honestly, I developed SlashLinks because I wanted to put my del.icio.us links on my website in a fashion similar to the way del.icio.us displays them with the functionality of tags and archives (all intuitively navigable by URL).  So, that's what I have now.  My most recent links are at <a href="http:www.benengebreth.org/links/">/links</a>, my link archive is at <a href="http://benengebreth.org/links/archive">/links/archive</a>, and my links indexed by tag are at <a href="http://www.benengebreth.org/links/tags">/links/tags</a>.  </p>

<p>So I think I've fairly transparently integrated SlashLinks into my blog -- which was the goal.  I've also set up a vanilla instance of SlashLinks <a href="http://www.benengebreth.org/slashlinks/">here</a> to illustrate how it works out of the box.  Since the core links, archive, and tags pages are styled via CSS, you can relatively easily change up the look of these core pages to get it to look like you want.  If someone wanted to use SlashLinks as a stand alone link blog they might might style the site like <a href="http://www.benengebreth.org/slashlinks_blog/">this</a> for example.</p>

<p>SlashLinks uses a bit of the ole AJAX to keep up-to-date with del.icio.us.  When someone views your links (and after a user-defined check interval), SlashLinks will query del.icio.us via the API and grab your new links if you have any.  If you do, the links will drop into the page without a reload.  I think it's kinda cool.  So to keep up-to-date all you (or your readers) have to do is view the links page every once and a while.  Alternatively, you can log in to the SlashLinks configuration page and manually update.</p>

<p>There's a couple of examples of sites using SlashLinks at the <a href="http://slashlinks.eyebeamresearch.org/slashlinks_sites">project site</a>.  Hopefully there will be more sites added in the future.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:35:08 -0700</pubDate>
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<title>The goings on that I can bring to mind in 5 minutes</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I haven't posted in a week or ten days sometimes and then I look and see that it's been almost a month since I last wrote something here.  Pathetic.  So, since I've got to post, I'll have to fill this entry with trivialities.  Reverse chronological style.  Let's see.  Just got home from locking myself out of my place for the first time.  Unfortunately the unseasonably warm winter disappeared yesterday to be replaced by bitter cold.  Bad time to lock yourself out.  Had to walk down to the hospital to meet up with Neil and get myself back in.  Ah, what else, I've been obsessing on the bright white cleanliness of my new shoes.  Not because I'm trying to keep them all white, but cause I think it looks absolutely weird to have shoes this white (and they're not even white shoes!?).  What's probably really strange though is becoming so used to the old ass shoes that I've been wearing for far too long (told you this was trivial).  </p>

<p>But on the non-trivial side of things (finally something is coming to me), the <a href="http://www.eyeres.org/">Eyebeam OpenLab</a> has released some really cool projects in the last week or two.  Mike put out his super-cool <a href="http://ogle.eyebeamresearch.org/">Ogle</a> and Evan released <a href="http://detouch.org/">De Touch</a>.  The former is a tool for grabbing 3D images from games/programs (like printscreen, but for 3D) and the latter is a webapp that "explores the manipulation of the human form."  (i.e. it undoes what touch-up artists do to photos before we see them on the front cover of magazines).  I've got my <a href="del.icio.us">del.icio.us</a> based project coming out in (hopefully) the next week, so be prepared.  I've got to follow in some enormously successful footsteps.....not that I'm anxious about it.  Ok, yes I am.</p>]]></description>
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<title>It&apos;s a Meme!</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kottke.org/06/01/the-year-in-cities">Jason</a> had a neat suggestion.  List the different cities that you've visited in 2005 and spent at least a night in.  Fun times.  Let's see, I've got:</p>

<p>Los Angeles, CA<br />
Palm Springs, CA<br />
Denver, CO<br />
Columbus, OH<br />
Louisville, KY<br />
Boston, MA<br />
New York, NY<br />
Washington, DC<br />
<a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=copperhill,+tn&btnG=Search&ll=34.983315,-84.371567&spn=0.136707,0.271912">Copperhill, TN</a></p>

<p>Crap!  I didn't go anywhere this year.  Most of those places I hit because I moved!  I was just thinking that I need to plan some interesting trips this year.  Doesn't have to be too crazy or too far (though I really'd like to get out of the states again eventually -- just for a trip I mean).  I think my travel goals for this year will include visiting Philadelphia and Montreal.  I think I can get a bus to both places relatively easily and cheap.  This is exactly when a car would be handy though.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:51:16 -0700</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>I keep re-reading the essay by Michael Chrichton that came up on <a href="http://del.icio.us/popular/">del.icio.us/popular</a> last week called <a href="http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/complexity/complexity.html">Fear, Complexity, Environmental Management in the 21st Century</a> (which I recommend reading if you're gonna sit through this).  Chrichton wrote that science-fiction book <u>State of Fear</u> in 2004 which portrayed eco-terrorists and environmentalists in a similar light and created a bit of a stir in the science world just because so many people were citing the book in their reasoned arguments for or (more often) against the threat of global warming.  The essay above is kindof an encapsulation of the logic of the book boiled down to a talk form.</p>

<p>The thesis of the essay is that complex systems abound in nature and our ability to understand them is inadequate.  The conclusion that he seems to draw from this is that complex systems (the environment, in particular) should be left to do their complex system thing -- that things will take care of themselves in ways that we cannot forsee.  What he's implying is that complex systems have some sort of self-equilibrating mechanism, and I think he's right to a degree.  Over certain time scales something like climate can be considered an observable measure that implies equilibrium.  But instead of talking about equilibrium and the conditions that lead to and support that equilibrium, Chrichton talks about complexity in a way that makes it sound like the universe has no order and that complexity is really a non-science for all of it's predictive power.</p>

<p>One of the tenants of chaotic systems (or complex systems -- they're the same thing) is that they have sensitive dependence on initial conditions (i.e. small changes in input can yield large changes in output) and Chrichton admirably notes this in the essay.  Weather is a complex system where this logic should be applied.  Weather is extremely sensitive and can appear almost random at times.  Climate (defined as a long term average of weather) is more stable precisely because it averages out the seemingly random elements of weather.  </p>

<p>Something that Chrichton gets wrong is the ability to control chaotic systems.  It is absolutely true that chaos and complexity can be controlled, though maybe for Chrichton's approval I'll use the term managed (I'd like to say control here actually, because in a scientific and engineering sense it can exactly mean manage).  It can't be controlled in the way that you can control an airplane or a rocket, you can't guide it wherever you want to (<a href="http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~shane/superhighway/description.html">except when you can</a>), but you can keep some systems from spiraling away toward some undesirable extreme.  It's not always possible and it's certainly not always easy, however, complexity does not preclude control of complex systems.  Chrichton mentions the stock market as an example of a complex system that can not be controlled, and he's wrong.  The stock market could be controlled if we had access to a gigantic pile of money.  We could manipulate the price of a stock to move it any direction we wanted when we wanted.  Of course that's not the way to make money in the stock market.  The stock market is chaotic in reality because we do not know what the millions of inputs (individuals with smaller sums of money betting on certain stocks) are into the system with exact (or even approximate) specificity.  Therefore the system behaves like a complex system because any attempts to model it have large errors in input and as we know an error in input can lead to large errors in output.  The stock market can't be controlled for practical reasons not theoretical ones (though the SEC exists in part to make sure that fraudulent attempts to control the market at a micro-cap level are not allowed).</p>

<p>For our purposes here complexity means that we can't control weather, but we can control climate (and conversely, we can fuck up climate).  The key, going back to the sensitive dependence line, is to keep the system's inputs within the boundaries of conditions that support the desired behavior.  Meaning, quite simply, don't change your inputs too significantly or you will overtax the equilibrium mechanism that handles these (relatively) small deviations.  That's the key to controlling complex systems, correct the inputs while the deviations are small, before they become large and unfixable.  This is what ecosystems do.  This is why they are important.  They are resilient to change, but not infinitely so.  There are many inputs for climate which need to stay within certain bounds, but there is at least one input in particular that humans are perturbing to ranges outside of modern historical norms.  The question is how far we can push it before we exceed the system's equilibrating capacity.  The corollary question is what new behavior results from leaving equilibrium.  This is really where the complexity question comes into play because we really don't have a basis for knowing what might happen if we leave our current equilibrium, but we know that large change is possible.  This is, to me, the case for managing the problem.  Let's not push ourselves out of a comfortable equilibrium into an unknown system.</p>

<p>While I agree with Chrichton's disapproval of using fear as a motivator and see the observation about civilization naturally moving toward de-carbonization very optimistically (though I question the speed at which we are doing so and the economic penalty we pay for moving too slowly), I take issue with the essay's science by analogy approach to persuasion and his heavy use of media distilled science to support his conclusions.  But in the end, Chrichton's main fault is that he misapplies elements of complexity theory to justify a <i>why bother</i> attitude and to nearly demonize the scientific process.  To think that scientists are working with linear frameworks for the behavior of complex systems and only science fiction writers are privy to the non-linear way of things is truly ridiculous.</p>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>I'll add more to this entry when I'm not in the middle of the woods in Georgia, but it should be noted that today -- the first day of the MTA strike -- I walked at least 12 miles.  From <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from%3A+Bennett+Ave+%26+W+187th+St,+New+York,+NY+10040+to%3A+540+W+21st+St,+New+York,+NY+10011&f=d&hl=en">Home to Eyebeam</a> then from <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from%3A+Bennett+Ave+%26+W+187th+St,+New+York,+NY+10040+to%3A+540+W+21st+St,+New+York,+NY+10011&f=d&hl=en">Eyebeam to the Chinatown</a> bus.  Almost the entire length of Manhattan all with a relatively heavy backpack on my shoulders (as I was/am on my way out of town).  Funny thing was how much I liked it.  It's one of those things though that's enjoyable once or maybe twice, but certainly not as a daily routine.  Hopefully the strike will be over by the time I get back to NYC.</p>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>The entire city came down with a cold last week and I've got it now too.  It's clouding my brain and making simple tasks tough and harder tasks totally impossible.  So, I put some pics up on Flickr cause that's easy enough to do still.  <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bengebre/sets/1565844/">Here's</a> some stuff from when Dottie was visiting and when we had Dana's couch-warming party.  I also got a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bengebre/72894072/">shot of the snow</a> the other morning out of my bedroom window.  And Finally, here's my <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bengebre/72893522/">Voyager stencil</a> (from <a href="http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/spacecraft/voyager_browse.jpg">this</a> original) that I made at Eyebeam the other week.  I'm liking the possibilities with the stencils.  Can't wait to make more.</p>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>There's a ridiculous amount of things that I should be talking about, but for whatever reason I'm not keeping up.  Interesting things that I've been meaning to mention in no particular order .... <a href="http://warhblog.com/">Andy Warhol has a blog!</a>  It's a project by my coworker at <a href="http://www.eyebeam.org">Eyebeam</a>, <a href="http://www.blog.ni9e.com/">Evan</a>.  He's started publishing Andy Warhol's diary blog-style.  Also at Eyebeam <a href="http://www.robotclothes.com/">James</a> and his wife hosted a cool panel to discuss their <a href="http://www.robotclothes.com/projects_insideout2.html">Inside out, Life Story</a> (a robotics/art project) that included <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Pekar">Harvey Pekar</a> & his wife Joyce (remember <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0305206/">American Splendor</a>).  On my end, <a href="http://www.benengebreth.org/housingtracker/">HousingTracker</a> has been seeing a lot of visitors in the last month or so.  Ever since Matt posted it to <a href="http://a.wholelottanothing.org">his site</a>, it got picked up a lot of places including <a href="http://del.icio.us/url/7ab424af20d438e19ae9d604ea8a09ae">delicious</a>.  There's probably ten other things that I meant to mentioned, but they've all slipped my mind for now.  I need to try to hold myself to weekly posting at least just to avoid that loss of information.  Let's see if I can keep that goal now that I've stated it semi-publicly.</p>]]></description>
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<title>Mechanical Turk</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Today, by chance, I ran into Amazon's new web service  <a href="http://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome">Mechanical Turk</a> that's gotten surprisingly little attention in Internet-land.  I don't completely know how it works yet, but that's kind of neat cause I've been thinking about how it <em>could</em> work.  What I do know, in short, is that Mechanical Turk (crap you can't really abbreviate MT for this -- it's already taken) is a web service that lets you make calls in your code to humans.  They call it Artificial Artificial Intelligence.  The idea is that you could write some request that in English would read like "Does the attached picture have a human in it" and submit it to MT (OK, I'm going to call it MT here at least) and then get back a response saying True or False just as if you were doing some simple comparison in a programming language (like 1==1 -> True).  This happens because the request is handed over to humans to decipher the content of the image and humans can easily determine if the photo you're curious about has a human in it or not.  It's almost like a scriptable <a href="http://answers.google.com/answers/">Google Answers</a>.</p>

<p>So, what's the motivator for humans to do this?  Well, they get paid for it of course.  And this is where I start to speculate because I haven't yet had time to look into exactly how the system works beyond what I've already mentioned, but the speculation is kind of fun.  Anyway, we I know they get paid for answers.  But while some answers are pretty black and white (like the example I just sited about the human being in the picture or not), some answers are subjective and others are just simply approximations.  I'm wondering if the system could handle those type of questions/problems through a voting type method.  Like maybe you could instead ask if that photo contains an attractive person or ask what that person's weight is judging just from the photo.  That starts to be a really cool system with some really cool -- dare I say it -- <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385721706/qid=1131079076/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2820423-7908031?v=glance&s=books&n=507846">Wisdom of Crowds</a> type potential.</p>

<p>One of the issues though is the latency of the response.  It's an asynchronous system meaning that you put in a request and then you check back for an answer later (presumably through another web service request).  However, I would think the amount of money you set for satisfactory answers would determine the latency.  If you ask whether or not a human is in a specified photo and offer $20 for an answer I would think you'd get one far faster than if you offered 3 cents.  I wonder how close you could get to a realtime system if you used outrageous rewards for simple problems?  I wonder if there's an adequate pricing/latency point somewhere in the middle?</p>

<p>So it's some potentially cool new technology (courtesy of a Bookstore let's not forget!).  I'll look into it more tomorrow and see if any of my speculations have any component in reality.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:41:44 -0700</pubDate>
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<title>Back to Work</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's been quiet for a while here, so I'm forcing myself to write a little bit.  It really shouldn't be too difficult given all that's been going on the last couple of weeks.  I started both a new job and school, both of which seem pretty fantastic.  I happily spent more than 12 hours at "the office" today and was thrilled to be there the whole time.  Granted we had a cupcake party at one point and wine later, but I still think it's a pretty good sign.  There's just so many people there who are into coming up with and then implementing good ideas (be it in art, production, or technology) and I find it very very invigorating and motivating.  Can't wait to see how things develop.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:56:42 -0700</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>I got a new sidebar group going called <em>Listen to This</em> where I'm going to link to (via del.icio.us, RSS, & Ruby) some of the music I've been listening to.  There seems to be plenty of bands that will give away a song or two for free on their websites, so I'll just be pointing to that kinda thing &#8212 free legal stuff.  I've often done it in my posts, but now I'll probably just keep it over on the sidebar.</p>

<p>I've also reconsidered <a href="http://www.benengebreth.org/archives/2005/05/delicious_ben.php">the idea of archiving my links</a>.  Since linking to another site is like voting for it when it comes to search engines, I decided that I hold my own opinions (links) in higher regard than someone else's so why not archive the links and make that vote actually count.  I haven't finished setting that up yet, but I'm working on it.  I don't really like the MT archiving plugin, so I'm just trying to work with <a href="http://del.icio.us/">del.icio.us</a> directly to pull my links out and write an archive based on what's over there.  Oh, and the links on the sidebar now contain the extended description that del.icio.us allows but that I had previously disregarded.</p>

<p>I'm heading up to Boston on Friday for the very cool <a href="http://startupschool.org/">Startup School</a> thing that <a href="http://www.paulgraham.com">Paul Graham</a> is putting on.  I'm gonna stay at <a href="http://www.jeffpalm.com/blog">Jeff's</a> place Friday and then catch the <a href="http://startupschool.org/speakers.html">speakers</a> on Saturday.  Then I'll speed back to NYC to see Elina who's getting into town for a little visit before she moves off to Finland.  I guess it'll be a semi-busy weekend.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:30:59 -0700</pubDate>
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